mlafefon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

That's the different:" a letter send to PM Rabin, signed by Arafat, and part of the Olso accords, declared "The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security"BUT NOTHING CHANGED IN THE PLO PLATFORM STATEMENT MEANING: I WILL RESERVE MY HATE FOR LATER USE IF I WANT TOO...The same attitude apply with other "Palestinian groups" - later confirm by documents that all sponsored personally by ArafatSo that shows who wants peace as final goal and act like snake

arabian143 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

AIRY BE MAHMOOD ABBAS we AIRY BE FATAH ikhwat sharmoota ..kiss okhtak ya mahmood il sharmoota we airy be martak we be wladak

Baculus (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Actually, that isn't a myth, because a letter send to PM Rabin, signed by Arafat, and part of the Olso accords, declared "The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security," among other concessions. The PLO also renounced the use of terrorism and violence - in turn, Israel recognized the PLO as the Palestinian reps.The (unsuccessful) challenge was to have all the other Palestinian groups recognize this.Israel HAS been working, successfully, with Fatah.

mlafefon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

-That's all myths:1- Arafat refuse to changed its position on Israel in the PLO platform statement 2-Palestinians NEVER had one leadership or management so they can always say- it's the other party sign the peace...we can continue the shooting.3- PLO, HAMAS, HIZBELUAH- all claim this same old shit, pretending of new "independent" terror sells when after awhile proofs shows they sponsor and controlled them as part of their tactics.-Arab always lies and never respect their own promises...

Baculus (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Mlafefon, Turkey is still a secular, democratic country, though I do believe there have seen some recent shifts in the government over the last few years (and from the more recent election results).Actually, PLO, in '93 or so, under Arafat, changed its position on Israel and its right to exist. Part of the issue, though, have been a disagreement with some of the other PLO-related factions and their refusal to deal with Israel.The Fatah/PLO have made solid strides with Israel, though.

redfox5757 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The Zionists are Wankers

mlafefon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Wrong...The Turks moved from moderate western country to something else in the last 5 years.PLO refuse to Israel peace offer and the two state ideaI agree that not all Muslims AT THIS POINT are terrorist but because of luck of one clear voice from Muslim leaders against Terror it's a matter of time.Please read at Wikipedia about Islam history -that's a very bloody history.Look at all the wars and terror around the world... 99% of them related or generated by Muslimsfacts & reality

Baculus (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There are moderate elements in Islam - look at our allies, such as Turkey, or nations in Africa, such as Algeria, who have dealt with years of extremism.It's usually Muslims, not Westerners, that bear the brunt of radicalism.In this case, Fatah/PLO, the opponents of Hamas, are a secular organization. They are "old school," in that they have a political objective of Palestinian state. They have no interest in a "world wide" struggle, which is why both Israel and the US can work with Fatah.

maddinenprimetime (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

well 800 years ago it would be christianity and islam is a newer religion than christianity so maybe it just takes some time

mlafefon (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's simple: Which of the following religions involves with terror all over the word, forcing others to convert their religion and demolish others holy places?a) Christianityb) Buddhismc) The Jewish religiond) The "peaceful" Islam Hippies: You better support our fight against Islam terror NOW -before your child will be forced to pray in Arabicand for those who believe in "non-fanatic Islam":It's like bleeding in deep water full with white sharks-It's only swims until it's too late!